wolfyvegan

So you mean integrating the ethical with the practical? "How to get shit done" rather than "I hope someone does something"? Less advertising, more wheatpaste-able propaganda? I agree! As a subversion tactic, eating a pre-packaged veggie burger is questionable at best.

~~Plant trees, grow your own banana, share with your neighbours, get a vasectomy/bisalp, cancel your credit cards, boycott taxation, organise and strategise, flip tables, rescue the imprisoned, sabotage cruelty, read Ecodefense,~~ and of course, don't do anything illegal. The last thing we'd want to do is offend someone.

Life will find a way. Microbes seem to be very resilient in adapting to extreme conditions, and they seem able to do their thing (which for some is to produce methane) so long as they are not literally frozen. Rice agriculture has higher methane emissions than (all?) other crops due to the anaerobic soil conditions in the flooded fields, so intuitively, sinking a bunch of vegetable matter in the ocean would yield similar results. Even if the cold of the deep sea slows them down, those microbes will find a way to foil this geoengineering plan. A delay of a few decades is optimistic indeed.

Not really vegan characters then, are they?

I mostly agree with this. I have zero interest in studies showing that consumption of such-and-such legume reduces the risk of heart disease or that such-and-such company has a new plant-based plastic-wrapped food-like substance available. I'm much more interested in practical tips for achieving animal liberation and overthrowing the capitalist oppressors. (The term "capital" actually comes from "capita" meaning "head" - wealth was once measured in how many head of cattle someone owned. The Sanskrit word for "war" literally means something like "the greed for more cattle" if I remember correctly.) Artistic or literary works with a strong vegan message that could be useful as propaganda are also something that I enjoy. I recently read The Word for World is Forest by Ursula Le Guin after seeing someone in another community on this site recommend it, and there is definitely a veganarchist message in there.

I would not make the focus hope or the climate crisis, however. Hope and faith are poor substitutes for direct action, and while the climate crisis is an extremely important issue in general, it is only relevant to veganism insofar as it affects non-consenting beings and is caused by their exploitation. The focus of veganism is animal liberation, and human health or environmentalist issues only distract from that. Something like "A place for solarpunks working toward a world without speciesism" would make more sense for this community. Solarpunk already implies ecological sustainability and addressing the climate crisis.

Also, grass is one of the many tools of the devil, widely employed by the animal exploitation industry as the cheapest possible feed, destroying vast amounts of forest in the process, so anything involving grass roots has got to go.

I have a geoengineering idea too. Rising sea levels are going to be a real problem if animal agriculture and other industries responsible for climate change continue business-as-usual. If anything, dumping biomass into the ocean will raise sea level even more. But what if there were a way to sequester water somewhere on land so that it couldn't flow back out into the sea? I'm not talking about building giant freezers to bring the glaciers back, but some other method, something more practical. It wouldn't even need to be permanent (but really, what is?) if sequestration were continuous; over time, any net increase in the amount of water sequestered on land would be of benefit for slowing sea level rise. If this method of sequestering water on land also reduced the rate of run-off from rainfall, resulting in greater sequestration in a positive feedback loop, even better! Reducing run-off would have the added bonus of reducing soil erosion, meaning less of the land would get washed out to sea where it could raise sea level even more. Reducing soil erosion above and beyond the reduction achieved by slowing run-off, such as by physically holding the soil in place, would be of even greater benefit.

It might sound far-fetched, but with all of the biodiversity in the world, there probably already exist organisms in nature that could perform a chemical reaction to convert both carbon dioxide and water into biomass, the best of both worlds! If these organisms could sequester a large enough amount of carbon dioxide and water in this way, and then keep it locked up for hundreds or even thousands of years, then that could be a huge help to solving not only rising sea levels but the current climate crisis in general! If there were a way to propagate these carbon- and water-sequestering organisms in order to scale up their effect on the environment, then geoengineering efforts could focus on finding more efficient ways of doing that instead of developing expensive and ecologically-unprecedented technologies. If propagation of carbon- and water-sequestering organisms were to take place on land currently used in ways that contribute to the climate crisis, then that would be the very best of all!

Now, how can I get R&D funding for this?

Simple enough. Thanks!

Would you like to see more regulation on this community?

Unless there are people downvoting every post or similar, no. "A community to discuss anything related to veganism" has room for all sorts of posts and discussions. Carnist trolls currently seem to be few and far between, so current moderation practices are working.

What rules should be applied?

That depends on the direction that everyone wants the community to take. @HubertManne makes a compelling point about splitting a community like this into a vegans-only community and an outreach community, in which case each would have different rules. For now, this seems like a community open to everyone engaging in a respectful way, so the instance-wide rules should suffice. The site's wiki even states:

A solarpunk culture would strive to dissolve every form of social hierarchy and domination – whether based on class, race, gender, sexuality, ability, or species – dispersing the power some individuals or groups wield over others and thus increasing the aggregate freedom of all; empowering the disempowered and including the excluded. It is rooted in the legacy of such liberatory movements as anti-authoritarian socialism, feminism, racial justice, queer and trans liberation, disability struggles, animal liberation, and digital freedom projects.

What would you specifically not like to see?

I would not like to see posts removed or users banned for

• disagreeing with or questioning a popular narrative;
• linking to external sites/articles that relate to vegan living, animal liberation, or the struggles of particular non-human beings;
• expressing Yourofsky-esque misanthropy;
• criticising people (including other vegans) who engage in oppressive practices;
• exercising free speech in general, so long as it does not consist of personal attacks, harmful misinformation, or calls to violence against peaceful beings;
• anything that does not violate the instance rules or the spirit of Solarpunk;
• posting in a language other than english.

That said, if someone makes a post saying that it's okay to eat oysters, I would prefer that the mod(s) err on the side of caution regarding bivalve sentience and ban that user for inciting violence. "Better that ten inanimates go free than that one sentient be eaten" or something like that.

Seaspiracy

Ask them to "buy" you a few hectares of rainforest somewhere so that you can protect it from deforestation (and then either live there yourself or send someone there to protect it from deforestation). This way, people still get to buy something for you rather than donate to a non-profit.

Agreed. There is no need for even more microplastic in everything from deep-sea sediment to rain clouds. But I suspect that as people accumulate more and more microplastic in their brains, they will become less and less capable of making rational and ecologically-responsible decisions. A vicious cycle.

And the tree doesn't get too big and out of control?