agent_nycto

Ah, so you think learning from history is pointless because it's not happening here and now, gotcha.

Oh man, you've never heard of gerrymandering, have you...

Even if it was over 50 years ago it was a significant point in history that a lot of people seem to forget, and was a major turning point for the public during Vietnam. It's also relevant to today with what's happening.

That ain't normal nor common, if you can go see a doctor. Passing out from pain is definitely not a regular situation.

So if you don't completely trust your senses, then you, in the end, agree with Mickey. Donald is freaking out because his viewpoint is that of total materialism and that everything has no value.

Mickey points out that you cannot completely trust your senses and the information we get from those senses, so being upset over an intrinsically worthless universe is basing everything on that fallacy.

You've been implying, and thus pretty easy to assume, that this implies the spiritual, what with starting this off saying that Occam's razor beats Plato's cave, but the allegory of the cave isn't saying gods or spirits are making your perceived reality. It's just saying the thing you already agree with, that you can't completely trust your senses.

So if you don't completely trust your senses, and you understand that your perception of reality is based on those senses, you should now understand what the allegory of the cave is about.

QED

Is it not equally insane to completely trust your senses? We know how they can be tricked fairly easily. Like I said before, that's one of the reasons why real science always has the caveat of "as far as we know", unwritten at the end of every discovery.

At the end of the day, you don't know, for sure, with 100% certainty, that you're not a brain in a jar. Or more statistically likely, a brain popping into existence after the universe ended and then popping out again. (An actual scientific theory backed up by the math which is wild). You simply don't. All of your existence could be a lie. You just have to make the best guess you can with what info you've got and hope you're correct. Science is very, very good at guessing within the parameters of the information we can observe, but it's always assuming what we are observing is true.

It's like, you're, idk, sitting in a cave, and like, you're watching these shadows on this wall. You can't turn around and look at what is making these shadows, so you're doing your best at guessing, like, what the heck is actually making these shadows. Something like that.

Heh, for someone who has a poor view of philosophy you sure do subscribe to it a lot.

You're fine with making an assumption, and that's ok, that's part of your philosophy.

Heh, amateur hour. Let me show you my watch.

Why bother? They set fire to themselves.

Why does it upset you?

But why oh why aren't people having kids?!

Finished playing through Atomic Heart, and because of that wanted to play a game that was, you know, actually fun instead of a miserable slog, so I've been playing Crab Champions and playing the original BioShock again for the millionth time. Sometimes Sea of Thieves.